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Ignition Components Table

The table below is a summary of the era aftermarket ignition interchange part numbers for the typical Model A and B Ford ignition tune-up items such as points, rotors, condensers, distributor caps, etc.

Original Model A (and later Model B) ignition systems were designed and produced for Ford by the Electric Auto-Lite Company of Toledo, Ohio, and by the American Bosch Magneto Corporation, based in Springfield, Massachusetts.

OEM ignition components supplied to Ford by Auto-Lite (AL, A) and American Bosch included complete distributors and hardware, as well as electrical components such as coils, points, and condensers.

In 1930, the American Bosch Magneto Corporation (AB) was combined with the US branch of Robert Bosch A.G. of Germany to form the United American Bosch Corporation.

Beginning in late 1931, Essex Wire Corporation (SX) began supplying Model A and B ignition coils to Ford. Essex was already a major producer of OEM wire harnesses and battery cables for Ford beginning in 1930. Essex's manufacturing facilities were located in space leased from Ford at the old Highland Park (Model T) assembly plant.


The table below will help you spot and identify NOS and NORS ignition parts at swap meets. These older vintage OEM replacement parts are often better quality and materials, and more dimensionally accurate than currently available reproduction parts, other than possibly condensers as discussed further below.

Do you have any other part number interchange data to add to the table?


Description

Year
Ford Bosch Auto-Lite Niehoff Filko Standard
Motor
Products/
Blue Streak
Echlin
NAPA
AMPCO Motorcraft Other
A Contact Points Set 1928-31 A-12199 FF-14-15 48-45 FD 1718 CS 30 F 81 DP-104 BorgWarner A123
A Contact Arm 1928-31 A-12162 IL-78030 IGF-3003-A FF 14 FB 48 FA 16
A Contact Screw 1928-31 A-12172 CS-79814 IGF-86 FF 15 FC 45 FA 7
B Contact Points Set 1932-34 B-12199 FF-23-15 49-45HD CS 30 F 82-W Shurhit Set 38
Sorensen FO-21-22
B Contact Arm 1932-34 B-12162 FF 23 FB 49 FA 14 Shurhit 1A-50
B Contact Screw 1932-34 B-12172 FF 15 FC 45 FA 7 Shurhit 1B-53
A Condenser * 1928-31 A-12300 CD-77949 1GF-2004 FO 200 FD 11 FA 5 F 580 DC-1 Carquest GAA1119
PDC Gold Band F-580
B Condenser * 1932-34 B-12300 FF 21 FO 201 FD 55 FA 10 F 581
Rotor 1928-34 A-12200
B-12200
SA-77946 IGF-1026 FF 12 FO 71 FD 15 FA 3 F 901 BorgWarner BWBD34
GP Sorensen FE76
Carquest Wells 515589
Shurhit D-34
Taro 900BB
Distributor Body * 1928-34 A-12105
B-12105
FO 70 FD 22 F 900 Western Auto/
Wizard LR4215
Taro 902BB
Distributor Cap 1928-34 A-12115
B-12115
FO 70A FD 21 FA 9 F 902 Taro 902AB
"Hi-Speed" One-piece
Round Distributor Cap
1928-34 FF 71 F 928 Taro 901BB
A Upper Plate Asm
with Points
1928-31 A-12150 FF 106 BA-2
A Upper Plate Asm
w/o Points
1928-31 A-12151 SA-78192 IGF-1082 BA-2LP FD 29 FA 30
A Lower Plate Asm 1928-31 A-12148 SA-79835 IGF-1064-A BA-20 F 3811
B Upper Plate Asm
with Points
1932-34 B-12150
B Upper Plate Asm
w/o Points
1932-34 B-12151

Description

Year
Ford Bosch Auto-Lite Niehoff Filko Standard
Motor
Products/
Blue Streak
Echlin
NAPA
AMPCO Motorcraft Other


*Condenser:

The May 29, 1930 Ford detail drawing of the A-12300 condenser indicates it to be optionally a Bosch CD-77949, or an Auto-Lite 1GF-2004.

A word about Condensers:
It is generally NOT recommended (and may be unreliable) to use NOS or older vintage condensers due to the technology used to produce them. Many of them are subject to failure due to perforation of the internal wax paper type insulator, which separates the foil layers.

This risk of failure is compounded by the physical location of the condenser on a Model A. It is placed inside the cast iron distributor casting, just above the cylinder head, and in close proximity to the exhaust manifold.

The Model A condenser is in a high-temperature environment with little air circulation or cooling. Virtually all other automotive condensers are placed higher up and away from engine heat.
To minimize the risk of condenser failure, it is generally advised that modern "burnout-proof" condensers of the proper capacitance (0.25 uF, 600 V) are the most reliable.

These condensers have a modern polyester (Mylar) film construction and are better able to withstand the high heat conditions found in the Model A application.


*Distributor Body:

The 1928 Bakelite Distributor Body is characterized by a single locating notch to the distributor casting pin and a tall window with radiused upper notches (for stress relief) for the movable point plate arm to extend through.

The 1929-31 Distributor Body A-12105 is characterized by a single locating notch to the distributor casting pin and a tall window with square upper corners for the movable point plate arm to extend through.

The 1932-34 Distributor Body B-12105 was initially designed to be backwards compatible and work with both the Model A and Model B distributor casting pin locations. It is characterized by having two locating notches so as to fit either distributor casting pin, and with a short window with square upper corners for the fixed Model B point plate arm to extend through.

In addition, however, the B-12105 had a thinned-out rectangular section above the point plate arm notch, which could be broken out with pliers so as to also fit a Model A distributor. It was designed with a nominally short window to better fit the more sensitive Model B distributor (with its centrifugal advance mechanism) and better seal it from dust and insects, etc.

Most aftermarket and reproduction distributor bodies are designed with a nominally tall square window like a later Model A but also have two casting pin notches to fit both the Model A and Model B distributor.



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  3. Model A & B Condenser Details
  4. Model B & Model 46 Distributor Design Details
  5. Model B & Model 46 Distributor Advance Operation
  6. Model B & Model 46 Pertronix Ignitor Distributor Timing Procedures
  7. Model A Remund Pertronix Electronic Ignition Instructions
  8. Model A & B Engine Cam/Valve and Ignition/Spark Timing Discussion
  9. Model A, B, & Model 46 Camshaft Gear Timing Cover Differences
  10. Model A Distributor Lower Plate Wiring Solution
  11. Model A Nu-Rex Centrifugal Spark Advance Unit

February 2008